Business & Bullshit

BIZ & BULL

The only founder conversation that gets honest because nobody's driving.

A Biz & Bull production, part of The ALT.

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What It Is

A founder interview show recorded wherever the guard comes down.

Sometimes that's the back seat of a self driving car. Sometimes it's a quiet corner of a coffee shop that already feels like home to the person sitting across from us. The setting changes. What stays fixed is the premise. No script. No rehearsed answers. No polish standing between the guest and the truth.

Most founder media reads like a press tour. Same questions, same performance, same LinkedIn version of the story. Biz & Bull works because the room won't allow that. Take away the studio and the teleprompter and what's left is just two people talking.

How It Works

Every episode runs on one split.

The Business

What actually worked. The numbers, the decisions, the parts of the playbook that never make it into a pitch deck. This is the founder's real infrastructure, laid out in plain language.

The Bull

The myth this founder was handed and had to unlearn to get anywhere. Every episode names it, then hands the audience what's real instead.

Who Sits In The Seat

Guests arrive with the vetting already done.

Every guest comes through one of two doors. A warm network across circles most people can't just walk into. Or an open application, because the best story doesn't always come with a résumé attached.

Nasdaq Milestone Circles
Forbes & ForbesBLK
Harvard Business School Alumni
Recording Academy
Vogue Club
"We'd rather find one real story through an open door than fill a season with polished names who have nothing left to say."
Where We Film

The room is part of the story.

We choose spaces that already mean something to the people who use them. A location isn't a backdrop here. It's a character in the conversation.

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In Motion

Autonomous rides where the moving world outside becomes part of the rhythm of the conversation.

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Third Places

Coffee shops and community spaces that already function as home base for the builders in that city.

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Special Editions

Rooms reserved for stories that need more space to breathe than a standard sit-down allows.

ALT.

Biz & Bull lives under The ALT, a platform built on one idea: you were never meant to fit inside one lane. This show is that idea, recorded in real time, with real people, in real rooms.

Say Hello

Two ways in.

For Founders

Know someone with a real story?

We're always looking for the founder who has something true to say and hasn't had the right room to say it in yet.

Submit a guest
For Spaces & Partners

Have a room built for real conversation?

If your space already feels like home to founders and builders, we'd like to talk about what filming there could look like.

Start a conversation